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February 
Added Siemens 12AU7 to the collection.

December 2025
Replaced the Parasound A21 with the Accuphase A-48S

December 2024
Replaced the Oppo UDP-205 with the T+A DAC 200

April 2024
Moved the GIK Monster Bass traps from back wall to front of the room to control bass. This tightened the bass as well as opened up the mid-range and treble notes. Did not realize that the change would be so profound. Should have done this years ago.

Feb-2024
Added another Puron filter

Jan-2024
Added a Puron filter

Oct-2022
Added the Mazda 1960s grey plates 12AU7 to the Rhumba. They opened my eyes (and ears) as to why people are ready to pay so much for NOS tubes.

Aug-2022
Added Isoacoustic mini-pucks beneath the Inakustik and audio server.
Added a custom built audio server to replace the aging Asus laptop. I did not realize how much profound effect a dedicated server has on the quality of the sound.

Oct-2021
Added the ISO-puck mini under the Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3 and Oppo UDP-205.
Added Isoacoustic Carpet spikes for Gaia II.

Aug-2021
Added the AudioQuest Foglifters. Initially added for "looks" and cable dressing. But found that it adds finesse and delicacy to instruments in the music. My guess is the contact area of the cable from the original wooden raisers has reduced more than 90% and that might be the reason. I am happy.

July-2021
Added the GIK 242 ceiling panel that balanced the sound from the left speaker, that was getting missed due to the unavoidable soffit in the room. So much to learn from your own experience.

Dec-2020
Purchased the Fidelizer PRO. This has immensely changed the listening experience. Folks using a Windows machine should certainly give a shot to the free version. You have nothing to loose except 5 minutes. The best part of free version is it is an exe files that you run and not install. So if you don't like it, just delete the .exe.

Oct-2020
Upgraded Asus K52 with a Asus S400CA, 8GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Again, this is an older laptop repurposed for audio. Also added a NAS server and all audio files are on that server. Connection to this server is via ethernet and not wifi. Evaluating the free version of Fidelizer which makes very audible, positive change in my system.

Jul-2020
Repurposed an old laptop for streaming Spotify/Qobuz and also digital files. The laptop was upgraded from 3GB to 8GB RAM and from 250GB HDD to 1TB SSD for DSD and FLAC files. Installed Foobar2000 with Eole skin on the laptop to play the digital files. Using an old iPad mini 2 tablet with MonkeyMote to control this laptop remotely. Love this app!
Installed the Inakustik Reference High Speed USB between the laptop and Oppo 205, which is now used as a DAC.

Jun-2020
Added Inakustik NF-2404 XLRs between Oppo-Backert and Backert-Parasound.
Will try to find some time to do a mini review of these cables, if I find time. These cables pull you into the music way too much.

Mar-2020
Added Inakustik LS-2404 AIR biwire loudspeaker cables

Nov-2019
Added the IsoAcoustics Gaia II footers to the ProAcs

Jun-2019
Added the Inakustik AC-3500p power conditioner in the system.

Nov-2018
Replaced the Promitheus Reference C-core TVC with Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3 preamplifier

Jan-2018
Replaced the Quad 21L with the ProAc D48R in Ebony.

October-2017
Replaced the Teac CD-1000 SACD player with Oppo UDP-205 universal disc player.

September-2015
Replaced the Marantz SACD player with Teac CD-1000.

May-2015
New room finished in April. Room is 19 X 15 X 8. Three walls were already in place (concrete). Had the 4th wall built with double drywalls inside/outside and using GreenGlue. 2 dedicated 10gauge 20 amp lines for amps and electronics. Speakers are 4 feet from back wall and 3 feet from side wall. Placement of speakers, chair, panels etc are within 1/8th inch tolerance. Replaced Signal Cable power cables with Cullen Cables Crossover Series power cords, because I needed longer and flexible cables.

Feb-2015
Replaced Signal Cable Silver Resolution RCAs between Marantz and TVC with Clear Day's RCA cables.

Sep-2014
Replaced Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR between TVC and amp with Clear Day's XLR cables.

Aug-2014
Replaced the Signal Cable Silver Resolution bi-wires with Clear Day Double Shotguns and jumpers between HF and LF speaker terminals.

04-Dec-2013:
Replaced original wooden footers under TVCs with Ebony footers. Simply unbelievable - what they did.

February 2012 - September 2012:
Been exited to have a dedicated room for this "passion". This word was emphasized by a female family friend. She was amazed by how passionately I could go on and on about this hobby. She likes classical music. Soon after we moved into our first home, I did post some questions on this forum about french doors. Those are in place now and I am happy with their looks. Per my wife (touch wood), I need to place something on the door panels for preventing reflections and maintaining privacy. Her support for me in this hobby has been outstanding and I would not have reached this far, if not for her. So, that treatment on the door will come sometimes later this year. This is a small room with 13.5'X12.5'X9' dimensions. I painted this room myself (first time, never did this before). The speakers are placed along the shorter wall. They are 40" from front wall and about 30" from side walls. They are about 7' apart with some toe-in. I sit slightly more than 7' away. All measurements are within 1/10" error. Finding the optimum position for speaker took me about 24 to 30 man hours. Though this is painful, the outcome of this exercise is mind-boggling. Got some granite to go between the floor and speakers. These are 18"X18"X1.5". This has tightened the bass and has provided necessary isolation from the wooden floor below. At the same time, added Herbie Audio Lab's Extra Thick Hush Puckies under the speaker spikes and the granite. This causes the speaker to not "ring" and provides stability to the speakers, because of the dBNeutralizer base. Since this is my own space, I added some treatments from GIK. Bryan Pape at GIK was very helpful and actually told me to go easy on the treatments. We started with 2 Tri-traps on the corners and 2 Monster Panels on the back wall directly behind the listening position. I liked the way the bass tightened up. Bryan suggested the 244 instead of 242s on the first reflection panels to take care of any phase issues as well. And that has turned pretty nice. Also got the terminations on the speaker wires changed from spades to BFA bananas. I am totally sold on the BFAs. Superb contact and fit. Some of you advised me to move the equipments from between the speakers. Though I could not do it 100%, what I did was, to disassemble the rack and use the shelfs on the floor directly. But the resulting change in the sound staging is simply fantastic. I never imagined that a rack placed between 2 speakers can mess the soundstage. With all this in place I did miss some "meat" in my system. But I thought it was the size of the room that was causing the nulls and there was probably nothing I could do. What finally brought "life" in my system was the new XLRs between the preamp (TVC) and the amp. The move from RCA to XLR in my system was nothing short of drastic. I have mentioned this on this site as well as a forum dedicated to Parasound Halo products. Apparently, there was not enough gain in my system and so the "meat" was missing on the bones, if you will. This was not so obvious in the previous apartment room, since it was small and the speakers used to be closer to the walls. In the near future, I would like to add 3 242 GIK panels on the front wall, behind the speakers. Will first experiment with the existing Monster Panels on the front wall.


March 2010:
The Parasound amp has changed my system profoundly. I cannot believe the transparency and expansiveness it has brought into my system. And it seems a very good match for my TVC as I set the TVC volume to lower levels than my previous amp.

April 2009: Added the Promitheus TVC, which took my system to an altogether different level. I did not imagine of such a performance from my system. Looking for a good power amp now. Want a power amp with high sensitivity and power - to match the TVC and also in case I upgrade my speakers at a later time.

August-2005
It took many listening sessions, forums, mags, etc to build this starter system. Was worth every minute spent for building it. Started with recommended components list - but ended with what my ears liked.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 19’ × 15’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


Components Toggle details

    • ProAc Response D48R Loudspeakers
    Ebony with Ribbon tweeter.
    • Accuphase Laboratory, Inc A-48S
    Class A power amp. 50 watts X 2 at 8 ohms.
    • Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3
    Tube preamplifier with 2 X 12AU7 tubes
    • T+A DAC 200
    True 1-bit converter - processes DSD files in their native form
    Uses 4 32-bit Burr-Brown converters per channel for PCM processing
    • Custom build Audio Server Audio Server
    Custom built audio server for streaming FLAC/DSD files and also other streaming services. Based on Streacom FC10 Alpha chassis. Running HQ Player for converting files to DSD 512
    • Signalyst HQ Player
    High quality file processor/player for converting FLAC files to 512 DSD
    • Inakustik Reference Power Station AC-3500P
    Power Conditioner
    • Inakustik LS-2404 Air
    Bi-wire speaker cables
    • Inakustik NF-2404 Air
    XLR Cables
    • Inakustik Reference High Speed USB
    USB cable
    • Inakustik 2502F
    Power Cord
    • Furutech FI-28(R)/FI-32(R)
    • Cullen Cables Crossover Series 10 AWG
    Amplifier Power Cord
    • Cullen Cables Crossover Series 12 AWG
    SACD player power cord
    • IsoAcoustics Gaia II
    Isolation footers for loudspeakers
    • IsoAcoustics Gaia II Carpet Spikes
    Carpet Spikes for the Gaia II
    • IsoAcoustics ISO-puck mini
    Footers under the preamp and DAC
    • AudioQuest Fog Lifters
    Cable dressers and system enhancers.
    • World Market Kendall Chair
    Very comfortable chair. Suede. No support directly behind the head which means sound is not distorted. I was searching for something like this for quite some time. I looked at some LC2 and LC3 knock-offs. But they were all leather that could reflect sound. Chocolate color which also matches the GIK panels.
    • GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap
    For front corners behind the speakers, in coffee color.
    • GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap
    Mounted on the wall behind listening seat.
    • GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap
    Absorption panel in Coffee color, mounted at first reflection points, that also takes care of phase related issues. Plan to get 2 more to go in the center of the room behind the speakers.
    • GIK Acoustics 242 broadband panel
    2' X 2' absorption panel
    • Porterhouse Audio Porter Ports
    • Puron
    Power filter
    • Apple iPad Gen 9
    iPad 9th generation for controlling Foobar2000 using MonkeyMote, Spotify and Oppo UDP-205 remote.

Comments 324

Mil-

Researching DACs myself. Will research more @ New York Audio Show.

House search has finally ended. House sold in Florida. HUMBLE!

Time to start enjoying my dedicated music room in 21 days.

lapierre

Owner
B_lim0,
Thanks! Wife got the decal from Hobby Lobby. She says there are tons of stuff for my room...but she says it is time to look at the other room too and stop spending on my room :-)
The Salamander stand was purchased in 2008. I was using it in my apartment. When I moved into this house, I decided to keep the equipment on the floor thinking that the stand was causing "imaging" issues. Turns out that I was not as careful with speaker placement in apartments, as much as I did in this house. Even with the stand in place, the image does not move or is diffused. The "panels on the center wall" is a awesome thing!! The only thing I did not do this time with the stand is use the topmost shelf. That might cause some reflection issues, since it is plain without any components on it.
Thank You for the offer on letting me try the DAC. I have lend to my colleague, my pair of Signal Cable RCAs to try out. He recently purchased a Prima Luna Integrated and is soon going to get the Anthony Gallo Classico CL-3 speakers. He has a 20 year old Phillips CDP that he plans to use as a transport and get a DAC. He is the one who put the DAC idea in my mind.

milpai

Hey, Mil! I like the decal; where did yourwife get it? I want one! I like your new stand also. Lookin sharp! I got my 4 gik 244 panels up and am loving the difference in sound. I took the t.v. Down but decided to put it back up because I couldn't find the parts for the bottom of the tv so I could place it on a table and take it in and out of the room for when my girl and I were watching movies. Anyhow, it's nice to see that your system is continually evolving into something you enjoy more and more :-)
P.s. if I ever get my v dacii back you can borrow it and see what you think if you'd like!

b_limo

Owner
Hi Lapierre,
I am not sure I need them. They are expensive too. I have achieved the sound stage I was looking for. Maybe I should listen to some demo systems to find out what I am missing. Plan to do this when I visit the local Marantz and Esoteric dealers sometimes in future. Currently researching into SACD players and DACs. Had never thought about DACs; but looks like that is the direction for future. My perfect player would have SACD playback with 24/192 and DSD inputs :-)
How is your new home search coming? You already moved in and have a dedicated room?
Thanks!

milpai

Diffusors in the future?

lapierre

Nice classy looking system and room Milpai. I'm sure it will give you years and years of enjoyment. You've done a very neat installation of your system.

photon46

Owner
System edited: Wife got a new decal for the room :-)

milpai

Owner
That's funny B_limo.
But I think, besides the first reflection panels on the side walls, the 2 panels on the wall in between the speakers that you are going to do, it going to be a HUGE positive effect. Of course to get this, the TV needs to come down. The center wall treatment is something may of us with SMALLER rooms, SHOULD do.
I understand that you are enjoying the new speakers. The GIKs will take your enjoyment to the next level. Enjoy your music!!

milpai

Milpai, I've only got four 244 panels coming right now but I think I'm going to put one on each side wall and then the remaining two on the front wall. I think I 'm going to take the t.v. down that is mounted on my front wall too. I think the panels will make a big difference. It's kind of funny that my system seems to be following yours, from cables to speaker placement to panels to passive pre amp; shoot, it would have just been easier for me to rent your room, two hours a day, five days s week...

b_limo

Owner
Thank You B_limo. Actually I do not miss the remote at all. With TVC, you set the volume once (twice for me because of dual mono) and enjoy the sound. I am sure you will enjoy the TVC. The GIKs will also make a lot of positive difference. Besides the regular placement, for me, the 2 GOK panels on the wall between the 2 speakers "locked" the image. They made a profound difference and I recommend that placement to everyone.

milpai

I like your system even more now Milpai that I know a bit about your amp and the tvc. I'm really looking forward to my gik panels and my lightspeed! How is it though, not having a remote?

b_limo

Owner
B_limo,
I think the biggest difference was the panels on the wall between the speakers. This made substantial difference in stabilizing the imaging. The difference in Poang and Jappling were not as noteworthy.

milpai

Hey Mil, did you notice a difference in sound when you switched to the jappling because it doesn't have a headrest, therefore there weren't any reflections or absorbtion going on directly by your ears?

b_limo

Owner
Highend64,
The Parasound is musical and resolving. The Quads sound awesome with that extra power.....especially when I have to listen late into the night at low volume. The bass is tight with this amp and the details come out very well. Honestly, the power amp of my previous integrated was my only reference. But very happy with this amp.

milpai

Thanks for your comments Milpai. It is sad that I had to downgrade but I will recover. I have not compare my system to any others because I don't have a reference. All I know is I'm happy with the sound.

How does the Parasound A21 sound to you? Thanks

highend64

Owner
I put the 244 on the front wall, since I wanted broadband treatment.

milpai

Owner
Thanks Sidvee! Yes, the sound of the system and the room is really nice now.

B_limo, Thanks man! The Oppo is 970H. No way it is as good as the Marantz. It sounds slightly thin compared to the Marantz. The Marantz is in a separate league.

Highend64, Thanks! I love the Parasound A21 - especially when using it's XLR connection. You should listen to it in your own system to see what it can really do. You have a pretty nice system yourself, that I bet would sound better than many $$ systems - especially because of the treatments you put in. It simply amazes me, what room treatments can do to your sound (music). At the same time I am sorry to hear that you had to downgrade. Whatever it was - hope you recover and have agreat upgrade in near future. Good Luck to you!

milpai

Also, which panels did you go with on the front wall. 244's or monsters?

b_limo

Hi Milpai. Nice system there. How do you like the Parasound A21 amp?

highend64

Hey, Mil! The room looks great! Glad to hear that your happy with the set-up. Question about the oppo: which one is it and does it sound better than the marantz?

b_limo

Room's looking great Milpai and am sure the sound is awesome as well. Njoy.
Cheers,
Sid

sidvee

Owner
Finally completed the room treatment project (famous last words from a audiophile). Have to thank so many of you who encouraged me in that direction. I am a big believer now!
One of the key pieces of advice came from Sidvee who mentioned that
Actually I read a white paper by Dr. Flyod Toole on room acoustics where in one of the conclusions was that the center of the wall behind the speakers and the center of the wall behind the listener are points in the room (specifically small rooms) which need to be treated for greatest acoustic benefit.
I did more research into this and found that people had positive experience with this. When I put the treatments on the wall between the two speakers, it was an UNBELIEVABLE experience. The speakers simply disappear and the imaging is so strong. The ambiguity in the imaging is completely killed. Bass is taut and you can follow the words so clearly. I was completely amazed by the depth that the system achieves. The best part is most of the music comes from thin air rather than the 2 physical speakers. Yes there are times when the music seems to come directly from the speakers - but this is probably for about 10% of the time. I am mesmerized when I lean towards extreme left or extreme right and still the music seems to come from beyond the speaker box. I say anyone who has a small room like mine must do this treatment and be amazed at how your system sounds - not matter how cheap/expensive your equipment is.
Over the past week purchased a new BDP for the family and stole the Oppo that was our primary DVD player. The Oppo now resides in my system. It gives me the ability to play DVD audio and MP3. I think I am satisfied for now. I was thinking of upgrading my CDP in a year or so, but reading about all the new DSD DACs that can play DSF files, I am now leaning towards that.

milpai

Hey Milpai! Like the new chair, looks good! I bet it stays put better than the poang also. I want to wait till I get a few sound panels and amp racks to post pics but may post pics before hand anyways. It seems most of our systems here on a-gon are always changing and if we waited until our rigs were complete to post pics, no one would have any pics.
Anyways..., do tell us about your new acoustic panels and your listening impressions! Can't wait to see the new pics!

b_limo

Owner
I feel the Poangs will sit a bit low after some months/years of use. I used mine for 8 years and now they have been moved to the basement. They are very comfy chairs.
I love the Jappling. In fact we went back and got the Jappling sofa, another chair and ottoman.
Bruce, is your system totally set up? You should post some pics. One suggestion to you or anyone looking to upgrade equipment - before you buy any new equipment, please treat your room. The change in sound, for good, is simply astounding! I put up my last set of acoustic treatments and will post some pics and updates this week.

milpai

Do you like it Milpai? I got my other poang, too. Interestingly, it is slightly smaller than the one I bought new, and quite a bit more comfortable do to different ergonomics also.

b_limo

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